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**larslars**

I think there are a lot of misconceptions and presumptions about base-less maps in this thread. For instance all of the discussion to me seems to be around making maps that give players more or less the same units to begin with.
I thinkt the challenge in baseless mapping should be about making maps that are not symmetrical neither in units and unit types nor terrain.
That should make for something far more interesting.

**VTTruck**

lucian and i tested out (a while ago) whether zerks vs heavy tanks were more useful. the repair 2 vs heavier attack.
(imagine a line of red zerks facing a line of blue h.tanks). turns out the repair function makes the tanks
survive a lot better than you'd think.

if you're going to try this baseless non-symmetric mapping - how about testing some concepts.
is one dfa better than 2 h.art.
1 h.art better than 3 l.art.
how about teh british vs the native african tribes? a ton of light inf. vs a small group of l.inf and l.arty...

russians in afghanistan. russians start w. jets copters and infantry. locals get tons of h.inf to start
and nearly all the terrain is mts and forests. give the locals sufficient income to represent american funding

**Streen**

How bout Mogadishu?
200 Troopers vs 5 tanks and 2 helicopters?

**VTTruck**

do the tanks and copters get a few snipers and spec forces dudes? makes a difference.

**Lucian**

Whatever you do, don't try jets vs heavy troopers on mountains! The heavy troopers rip through them like paper. Copters might be a different story, but I presume it'll be similar in many respects.

**VTTruck**

copters wont fare much better. they'll do more initial damage to the h.inf but take more in return.
less armor than jets.

02/03/2009 10:42:40 Re:Base-less Mapping
larslars Trooper Offline	I think there are a lot of misconceptions and presumptions about base-less maps in this thread. For instance all of the discussion to me seems to be around making maps that give players more or less the same units to begin with. I thinkt the challenge in baseless mapping should be about making maps that are not symmetrical neither in units and unit types nor terrain. That should make for something far more interesting.
02/03/2009 12:50:53 Re:Base-less Mapping
VTTruck Berserker Offline	lucian and i tested out (a while ago) whether zerks vs heavy tanks were more useful. the repair 2 vs heavier attack. (imagine a line of red zerks facing a line of blue h.tanks). turns out the repair function makes the tanks survive a lot better than you'd think. if you're going to try this baseless non-symmetric mapping - how about testing some concepts. is one dfa better than 2 h.art. 1 h.art better than 3 l.art. how about teh british vs the native african tribes? a ton of light inf. vs a small group of l.inf and l.arty... russians in afghanistan. russians start w. jets copters and infantry. locals get tons of h.inf to start and nearly all the terrain is mts and forests. give the locals sufficient income to represent american funding
02/03/2009 13:37:30 Re:Base-less Mapping
Streen Heavy Tank Offline	How bout Mogadishu? 200 Troopers vs 5 tanks and 2 helicopters?
02/03/2009 15:43:34 Re:Base-less Mapping
VTTruck Berserker Offline	do the tanks and copters get a few snipers and spec forces dudes? makes a difference.
02/03/2009 22:29:24 Re:Base-less Mapping
Lucian Berserker Offline	Whatever you do, don't try jets vs heavy troopers on mountains! The heavy troopers rip through them like paper. Copters might be a different story, but I presume it'll be similar in many respects.
03/03/2009 02:30:23 Re:Base-less Mapping
VTTruck Berserker Offline	copters wont fare much better. they'll do more initial damage to the h.inf but take more in return. less armor than jets.