|18/12/2010 04:04:41 Comon Beginers Mistakes|
Just thought It would make sense to put down some of the mistakes that new players make. Oh and I'm a beginner
1] Thinking Airfields and Ports give income. (I was pretty sure they didn't but asked)
2] Thinking tanks can capture Bases, Ports, Airfields. (common of jump right inners)
What are the others?
|18/12/2010 08:53:37 Re:Comon Beginers Mistakes|
|3) when I started (long time ago) I thought subs would be kind of invisible to the enemy like in every other game|
|18/12/2010 14:56:59 Re:Comon Beginers Mistakes|
hmm, i didn't have a problem with 2) and 3)...
4) when i started i thought symmetric two player maps are fair for both sides and therefore
accepted invites on those maps and invited others on them. took me a couple of weeks
(maybe even months) to understand what first turn advantage is
|18/12/2010 17:29:43 Re:Comon Beginers Mistakes|
5) building hovers in bases that are surrounded by mountains/forests. seen this one too many times.
|19/12/2010 22:49:36 Re:Comon Beginers Mistakes|
I've seen these a lot from rookies that I played unrated games for kicks:
6. Attacking in a stream.. some people don't even wait to build an army, they just send one unit at a time to its death.
7. Attacking without artillery
8. Weak defense lines, you need at least 1 straight line of full strength units at the front.
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|20/12/2010 10:12:44 Re:Comon Beginers Mistakes|
9. i kept thinking that a trooper/hover would stick around after it captured a base (like in advance wars). it doesn't and i lost too many bases from a counter-capture because i didn't have any back-up.
10. not understanding zone of control movement; especially thinking a jet couldn't hit a unit behind a few other units only to see it fly into the zoc and then use it's second move to slip through and attack.
11. taking for granted the gang-up bonuses.
12. allowing a unit to survive at the end of a turn only to watch it retreat and slowly repair itself. a battleship repairing two health per turn is like having another base producing 400 credit per turn.
|21/12/2010 00:06:38 Re:Comon Beginers Mistakes|
|13. Not paying attention to terrain modifiers to attack/defense. I understood the infantry modifiers quickly, but wondered why my tanks were getting slaughtered by them in forests.|
|21/12/2010 00:32:29 Re:Comon Beginers Mistakes|
14) Building artillery in range of the enemy or not sufficiently defended.
15) Not capturing bases quickly at the start. Either by being too cautious or building tanks instead of capturing units.
I think this thread should be summarised as a wiki page.
|21/12/2010 12:10:40 Re:Comon Beginers Mistakes|
16) joining games of very high rated players and not even trying to learn from their mistakes, or asking for help.
17) joining games on blue biased maps without checking the forums list of unfair maps or even reading the map description itself (i.e. Alupa's The Island, or the Alison's Higher Straits)
|19/09/2013 20:46:39 Re:Comon Beginers Mistakes|
18. Dumping money on a single berserker in low-income maps the moment I could do so. Berserkers are possibly the worst unit in-game cost efficiency wise. They still have their uses in tight, close combat games (mostly as FFA intimidation though), but otherwise they are just underwhelming, both on paper and in practice.
19. (not really) Spelling Common as Comon :p
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|15/08/2014 13:32:01 Re:Comon Beginers Mistakes|
20. Not thinking ahead when capturing a base in range of 2 turns of a enemy unit that can recapture.
21. Not thinking ahead when capturing a base in range of an empty (just finished from capture base)
Beginners often lose those bases in games with multiple players by a simple retake once the base comes back empty from capture.
Advanced players tend to avoid recapture by having two units ready to reach the base in order to avoid recapturing. (like a mobile artillery and an infantry, raider or hoover)
Good players think ahead for a couple turns at start to find the best order of capture and the right counter units in order to keep such bases.
|04/03/2015 05:02:21 Re:Comon Beginers Mistakes|
22. After both sides gather forces (i.e. on the bottom or top of Stirling's Meadow, where a map has two main cluster spots for each member and resources are split to sides) attacking too thin/quickly, where my troops would die and my base is far away and I can't support my attack and all my units die out too quickly.
23. Rushing DFA instead of using the cost-effectiveness of light artilleries.
24. As a consequence of rushing multiple DFAs in maps like Stirling's Meadow, my front line would often be weak and the enemy could just attack me as they have more troopers/raiders, and from this I'd loose control of a whole side
26. Building half the amount of troops that the enemy has (again in Stirling's Meadow at the top part) because I think the terrain advantages make this difference up, however, they don't and I end up loosing control of important strategic terrain such as the mountains and forests at the top side in Stirling's Meadow (as Blue).
27. Isolating my heavy tank in maps like Stirling's Aruba, and letting it get destroyed or very damaged by the enemies trooper multi-bonus and heavy tank combination.
|04/03/2015 05:15:33 Re:Comon Beginers Mistakes|
28. Literally just realised this one now. Attack bonus doesn't just add +1 for each next unit you attack with. It goes 1, 3, 6, 8, 9 etc. However, artillery adds +1 all the time, no more.
Use the bonus calculator on the right to help you: http://weewar.com/forum/posts/reply/0/1393.page
The calculator on the left is very useful to help you understand what will happen and the RNG (somewhat randomness) that can occur in Weewar. Sometimes my enemy has hit a 2 percenter and their unit survived on a higher health than anticipated and it ruined my whole move of destroying that unit!
|12/03/2015 00:04:07 Re:Common Beginners Mistakes|
Comon Beginers Mistakes, spelling Common Beginners Mistakes as Comon Beginers Mistakes
Now that I've got that out of my system...
Most of the common beginners mistakes have been covered in depth.
I can distill a bunch of them into a failure to study the Weewar unit specifications in detail, to understand the +/- impacts of terrain and the optimal unit attack combinations.
In any new undertaking, RTFM and ask experts for clarification on anything you don't understand. If you don't RTFM and ask experts, you dramatically lengthen your learning curve and set yourself up to develop bad habits.